We’ve received this disturbing story from Brigitte Gabriel’s American Congress for Truth:
Conestoga High School Da’wa Field Trip – Visit Planned To Saudi Dominated, Terror Tied Foundation for Islamic Education
November 5, 2007 - San Francisco, CA - PipeLineNews.org - On November 8, 2007 Conestoga High School students are scheduled to participate in a “mosque visit" to the Foundation for Islamic Education in Villanova, PA. [source, http://pa.cair.com/index.php?Page=upcomingin&Side=ifaith#mosquevisit]
The visit is being arranged by the Council on American Islamic Relations, a Saudi funded front group for Hamas.
Read the entire article, which is full of important information. Then ask yourself if you'd sign the permission slip for your kid to go to this?
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Tuesday, November 13, 2007
Wednesday, October 24, 2007
A Bridge Too Far
Since I’m both a traditional (small “t”) Catholic, and a person who places great value on clear language, ideas with substance, and intellectual precision, I purposely avoid anything to do with that brain pudding that goes by the name “ecumenism.”
I see it this way: If you want to convert me, or if, by some quirk, I accidentally manage to convert you, then fair is fair. It’s a good system, and it’s worked for thousands of years.
But for God’s sake, or for Allah’s, let’s don’t engage in the mutual adulteration of one another’s religions by dialoguing up buckets of nonsensical mush about how our square is really not so different from your circle.
All of which I mention only because I see once again where people who should know better have been playing at “interfaith dialogue.”
And I also feel a need to explain why, where I would ordinarily rely on quotations to better illustrate my point, when it comes to stories about ecumenical dialogue [sic], the language produced is so nauseatingly tepid and meaningless, that I can't find one thing substantial enough to find worth quoting, let alone worth re-reading. These interfaith events are the only examples I can think of where I actually support punitive government regulations being applied to compel drastic reductions in carbon emissions.
Poor Gregg Krupa at the Detroit News got the assignment to report about local Catholic and Muslim leaders gathering at the Islamic Center of America, where they “worshipped together,” (which is impossible), and, of course, contemplated, collaborated, dialogued, and spiritual journied, and all that other vapid nonsense. (“Catholic, Muslim interfaith dialogue opened”).
And the following will be my only example of the smog such unnatural intercourse brings:
"First of all, we recognize the fact that although these are two distinct religious traditions, we both have at their very heart good solid reasons why we engage in dialogue," said the Rev. Francis Tiso, associate director of the Secretariat for Ecumenical and Interreligious Affairs for the bishops' conference.
The language abuse is bad enough. But for me, the really embarrassing thing is that the Catholic leaders really believe they are working toward a common goal of mutual understanding, whereas I have no doubt that the ISNA, (the Muslim Brotherhood front group that is organizing the Muslim role in this sideshow), wouldn’t be involved if they didn’t see in it some opportunity for dawah.
The Brotherhood in North America (again, for which the ISNA is a mere front) has gone on record that its goal is “eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within and ‘sabotaging’ its miserable house by their hands and the hands of the believers so that it is eliminated and God’s religion is made victorious over all other religions.” ("Just What Is the MSA?").
In other words, (and I say it even with something like a grudging admiration), Islam just doesn’t do interfaith dialogue.
Islam’s idea of ecumenism, (which in its Greek root denotes the entire inhabited world), is to invite all nonMuslims on Earth to embrace Islam, and then, whoever refuses to accept it thereafter will be forced to submit to dhimmi status, Sharia law, and the payment of the Jizya tax, and, whoever refuses to pay the tax, will submit to being killed or sold into slavery. For that matter, those dhimmis who don’t resist haven’t any more rights than those who do, and may also be killed or sold into slavery.
Put bluntly, there’s no place in the Koran for sharing common theological ground with Kuffirs.
Which means there’s already a sizeable element of hypocrisy here, (or Taqiyya?), on the part of the Islamic hosts of this “dialogue.” I can’t imagine these discussions serve any other purpose for Muslims than to highlight the weak-mindedness and pliability of local Catholic leaders.
Nor can I take seriously the claims of the local interfaith participants that “they explored guidelines to govern attempts to convert Muslims to Catholicism and Catholics to Islam.”
Islam's guidelines on Muslims converting to Catholicism don't bear much exploring, because, quite simply: “The prophet Muhammad said that anyone who rejects Islam for another religion should be executed.” (“Conversion a thorny issue in Muslim world”).
We saw this last year after Abdul Rahman, an Afghani who converted from Islam to Christianity, faced execution for apostasy, and only escaped with his life by obtaining exile and asylum in Italy. In view of Rahman's case, Pope Benedict pointedly spoke about concerns he had about “communities who live in countries where there is a lack of religious freedom, or where despite claims on paper they in truth are subjected to many restrictions.” (“Italy Grants Asylum to Afghan Christian Convert”).
Last year during another interfaith field trip to the Islamic Center of America, we were witness to the spectacle of Catholic schoolgirls offered as lambs by their Catholic-school teachers to Islamic shearers. (“Catholic Schoolgirls Learn to Cover Hair, Think Islam Is 'Cool'”).
Since then we’ve seen instance after instance of Christians submitting to Islamic demands, including Speaker of the House of Representatives, (and Catholic), Nancy Pelosi, donning a hijab while engaged in an appeasement campaign with the dictator of Syria. Then there was Dutch Bishop Martinus “Tiny” Muskens suggesting “that Christians should refer to God as ‘Allah’ to promote better relations with Muslims.” (“Pray to Allah, Dutch Bishop Suggests”).
Then, there was Rev. Ann Holmes Redding, who decided she was a Christian and a Muslim, “just like I'm both an American of African descent and a woman.” ("I am both Muslim and Christian").
Okay, Redding is not a Catholic, but an Episcopalian priest. But in these circumstances I don’t know if Muslims place that much importance on distinctions among Christians.
My point is, search in vain for photos of young Muslim schoolgirls clutching rosaries, or poring over Bibles, or gathering in a Catholic sanctuary to hear explanations of the ancient Christian doctrines of the Atonement, and the Incarnation, and the Three in One cherished so dearly by those they’re pretending to be dialoguing with. You won't find those images. In these interfaith meets, Mohammed never goes to the mountain, but always vice versa.
And the symbolism of the Kumbayistas going as supplicants to the Islamic Center of America is not lost on the Muslim audience.
Fortunately, a lot of the local silliness of American prelates is neutralized by the firm pastoral hand of Benedict in Rome. Making short work of the recent duplicitous call for dialogue of the 138 Muslims a couple weeks ago, the Vatican promptly came out with a statement that dialogue was hardly possible when Muslims see the Koran as the literal word of God--strictly off-limits to interpretation or being discussed in depth. (“Cardinal signals firm Vatican stance with Muslims”).
Then, speaking for the Vatican, Cardinal Jean-Louis Tauran also issued this further challenge:
The fact that Muslims can build mosques in Europe while many Islamic states limit or ban church building cannot be ignored, he said. "In a dialogue among believers, it is fundamental to say what is good for one is good for the other," he said.
Since Benedict knows perfectly well that Islamic leaders will never tolerate treating with Christians on equal terms, the impossibility of “dialogue” is baldly apparent. It’s also apparent which party is the intransigent one, and why. (Okay, for those who sometimes miss the obvious, it’s the Muslims ).
Someone's crying, Lord.
Oh, that would be me.
I see it this way: If you want to convert me, or if, by some quirk, I accidentally manage to convert you, then fair is fair. It’s a good system, and it’s worked for thousands of years.
But for God’s sake, or for Allah’s, let’s don’t engage in the mutual adulteration of one another’s religions by dialoguing up buckets of nonsensical mush about how our square is really not so different from your circle.
All of which I mention only because I see once again where people who should know better have been playing at “interfaith dialogue.”
And I also feel a need to explain why, where I would ordinarily rely on quotations to better illustrate my point, when it comes to stories about ecumenical dialogue [sic], the language produced is so nauseatingly tepid and meaningless, that I can't find one thing substantial enough to find worth quoting, let alone worth re-reading. These interfaith events are the only examples I can think of where I actually support punitive government regulations being applied to compel drastic reductions in carbon emissions.
Poor Gregg Krupa at the Detroit News got the assignment to report about local Catholic and Muslim leaders gathering at the Islamic Center of America, where they “worshipped together,” (which is impossible), and, of course, contemplated, collaborated, dialogued, and spiritual journied, and all that other vapid nonsense. (“Catholic, Muslim interfaith dialogue opened”).
And the following will be my only example of the smog such unnatural intercourse brings:
"First of all, we recognize the fact that although these are two distinct religious traditions, we both have at their very heart good solid reasons why we engage in dialogue," said the Rev. Francis Tiso, associate director of the Secretariat for Ecumenical and Interreligious Affairs for the bishops' conference.
The language abuse is bad enough. But for me, the really embarrassing thing is that the Catholic leaders really believe they are working toward a common goal of mutual understanding, whereas I have no doubt that the ISNA, (the Muslim Brotherhood front group that is organizing the Muslim role in this sideshow), wouldn’t be involved if they didn’t see in it some opportunity for dawah.
The Brotherhood in North America (again, for which the ISNA is a mere front) has gone on record that its goal is “eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within and ‘sabotaging’ its miserable house by their hands and the hands of the believers so that it is eliminated and God’s religion is made victorious over all other religions.” ("Just What Is the MSA?").
In other words, (and I say it even with something like a grudging admiration), Islam just doesn’t do interfaith dialogue.
Islam’s idea of ecumenism, (which in its Greek root denotes the entire inhabited world), is to invite all nonMuslims on Earth to embrace Islam, and then, whoever refuses to accept it thereafter will be forced to submit to dhimmi status, Sharia law, and the payment of the Jizya tax, and, whoever refuses to pay the tax, will submit to being killed or sold into slavery. For that matter, those dhimmis who don’t resist haven’t any more rights than those who do, and may also be killed or sold into slavery.
Put bluntly, there’s no place in the Koran for sharing common theological ground with Kuffirs.
Which means there’s already a sizeable element of hypocrisy here, (or Taqiyya?), on the part of the Islamic hosts of this “dialogue.” I can’t imagine these discussions serve any other purpose for Muslims than to highlight the weak-mindedness and pliability of local Catholic leaders.
Nor can I take seriously the claims of the local interfaith participants that “they explored guidelines to govern attempts to convert Muslims to Catholicism and Catholics to Islam.”
Islam's guidelines on Muslims converting to Catholicism don't bear much exploring, because, quite simply: “The prophet Muhammad said that anyone who rejects Islam for another religion should be executed.” (“Conversion a thorny issue in Muslim world”).
We saw this last year after Abdul Rahman, an Afghani who converted from Islam to Christianity, faced execution for apostasy, and only escaped with his life by obtaining exile and asylum in Italy. In view of Rahman's case, Pope Benedict pointedly spoke about concerns he had about “communities who live in countries where there is a lack of religious freedom, or where despite claims on paper they in truth are subjected to many restrictions.” (“Italy Grants Asylum to Afghan Christian Convert”).
Last year during another interfaith field trip to the Islamic Center of America, we were witness to the spectacle of Catholic schoolgirls offered as lambs by their Catholic-school teachers to Islamic shearers. (“Catholic Schoolgirls Learn to Cover Hair, Think Islam Is 'Cool'”).
Since then we’ve seen instance after instance of Christians submitting to Islamic demands, including Speaker of the House of Representatives, (and Catholic), Nancy Pelosi, donning a hijab while engaged in an appeasement campaign with the dictator of Syria. Then there was Dutch Bishop Martinus “Tiny” Muskens suggesting “that Christians should refer to God as ‘Allah’ to promote better relations with Muslims.” (“Pray to Allah, Dutch Bishop Suggests”).
Then, there was Rev. Ann Holmes Redding, who decided she was a Christian and a Muslim, “just like I'm both an American of African descent and a woman.” ("I am both Muslim and Christian").
Okay, Redding is not a Catholic, but an Episcopalian priest. But in these circumstances I don’t know if Muslims place that much importance on distinctions among Christians.My point is, search in vain for photos of young Muslim schoolgirls clutching rosaries, or poring over Bibles, or gathering in a Catholic sanctuary to hear explanations of the ancient Christian doctrines of the Atonement, and the Incarnation, and the Three in One cherished so dearly by those they’re pretending to be dialoguing with. You won't find those images. In these interfaith meets, Mohammed never goes to the mountain, but always vice versa.
And the symbolism of the Kumbayistas going as supplicants to the Islamic Center of America is not lost on the Muslim audience.
Fortunately, a lot of the local silliness of American prelates is neutralized by the firm pastoral hand of Benedict in Rome. Making short work of the recent duplicitous call for dialogue of the 138 Muslims a couple weeks ago, the Vatican promptly came out with a statement that dialogue was hardly possible when Muslims see the Koran as the literal word of God--strictly off-limits to interpretation or being discussed in depth. (“Cardinal signals firm Vatican stance with Muslims”).
Then, speaking for the Vatican, Cardinal Jean-Louis Tauran also issued this further challenge:
The fact that Muslims can build mosques in Europe while many Islamic states limit or ban church building cannot be ignored, he said. "In a dialogue among believers, it is fundamental to say what is good for one is good for the other," he said.
Since Benedict knows perfectly well that Islamic leaders will never tolerate treating with Christians on equal terms, the impossibility of “dialogue” is baldly apparent. It’s also apparent which party is the intransigent one, and why. (Okay, for those who sometimes miss the obvious, it’s the Muslims ).
Someone's crying, Lord.
Oh, that would be me.
Friday, September 07, 2007
'The Missing Hijab 2 & the Jew,' and the Missing Humor of the MSA
Little Green Footballs, (and also American Thinker , and Protein Wisdom ), are giving their readers a chance to appreciate a grossly unamusing video, entitled “The Missing Hijab 2 & the Jew,” created by members of the Muslim Student Association at the University of Texas--San Antonio.
What with its roots in the Muslim Brotherhood, its being joined at the hip with CAIR, and its craven deceitfulness in posing as a campus student organization to disguise its unswerving mission to impose Islam on all of us by slow degrees, we at Dearborn Underground haven’t got much sympathy for the MSA.
Take a look at this video. Then ask yourself if you want your tax dollars spent to install ritual footbaths so guys like this can wash their feet?
What with its roots in the Muslim Brotherhood, its being joined at the hip with CAIR, and its craven deceitfulness in posing as a campus student organization to disguise its unswerving mission to impose Islam on all of us by slow degrees, we at Dearborn Underground haven’t got much sympathy for the MSA.
Take a look at this video. Then ask yourself if you want your tax dollars spent to install ritual footbaths so guys like this can wash their feet?
Thursday, August 02, 2007
MSA-CAIR Double-Teaming Gets Results at Pace University, and at UM-Dearborn
The recent travesty at New York’s Pace University in which student Stanislav Shmulevich was arrested and charged with two felony counts of Criminal Mischief in the Fourth Degree as a Hate Crime for tossing a Koran in a campus men’s room toilet has the hands of the Muslim Student Association’s dawa policy all over it.
Your local campus MSA is not just an ordinary student organization, but a serious pressure group that can throw enough weight against college administrators to get their way. As envisioned by its Muslim Brotherhood founders, MSA's primary mission includes dawa, that is, the non-violent method by which nonMuslim society is prepared for jihad and, ultimately, Islamic rule:
“Preparing the society is achieved thru plans for: spreading the Islamic culture, the possible media means, mosques, and da'wa work in public organizations such as syndicates, parliaments, student unions, ... Parallel to that, distinct muslims should be trained to administer political, economical, social, and student organizations efficiently (and Islamically), as another preparation step.”
At Pace, the university’s decision to categorize the vandalism as a hate crime wasn’t arrived at because administrators had a weakness for the victim claims of Muslim students. According to the New York Times, Pace officials discussed it first with police, and between them decided it was only “an act of vandalism rather than a hate crime.” This made sense.
Then, according to a former MSA board member, Haseeb, who blogs at Hahmed.com, it was only “[a]fter much deliberation between the Muslim Students’ Association with the school’s administration, [that] the university finally agreed to define this as a hate crime and investigated the issue.”
Indeed after the second incident a few weeks later, though it was no more of a intimidating nor a hate crime than the first incident, the MSA was ready to pounce.
The New York Times quoted the MSA's spokeswoman: "This time, the MSA @ Pace was quick to action again, and the university was much more supportive in their concerns“I would say that the university has kind of done a 180 and is definitely working with us in terms of labeling it as a hate crime."
Nor did MSA act without coordinated support from CAIR.
While Ibrahim Hooper and other flacks are complaining that finding pages of the Koran in a campus toilet is an act of intimidation creating a “hostile environment” for Muslim students at Pace, Haseeb more sincerely characterizes the incidents as an “opportunity.” The MSA welcomes the incident to leverage concessions from a scared university administration.
And the MSA never wants only what they’re demanding at the moment. They’re always taking the long view, and incidents like these are handy excuses to leverage greater and greater demands for special treatment for Islam.
At Pace, once they'd gotten the university to investigate the vandalism as a hate crime, the MSA kept up the pressure. Once the university did their "180" on the calling vandalism a hate crime, they pitched in to offer "sensitivity forums," according to Faiza Ali of the Muslim Students Association.
Haseeb explains the larger success of the Pace MSA, in that, ‘”aside from the proper labeling of the crime (as a hate crime) and the ensuing investigation, the MSA is also working hard with the administration in starting an anti-hate campaign which “will include sensitivity training for students and senior administrators, a program to train people in the proper protocols for handling bias incidents, public forums to discuss the hate crimes that have taken place, and the issuing of wallet cards with phone numbers for people to call in emergencies.”
Nor do local MSA chapters ever seem to make a move without CAIR providing public relations services--consisting largely of reckless charges of “Islamophobia” against anyone who criticizes any MSA goals. From CAIR-NY's press release:
“On Tuesday, October 3, the New York chapter of the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR-NY) will participate in a town hall meeting at Pace University to discuss a recent incident in which a Quran, Islam’s revealed text, was found in the toilet in a campus men’s room. CAIR-NY is calling on the university to treat the incident as a possible hate crime….CAIR-NY sees this incident as evidence of the growing phenomenon of Islamophobia in the United States and will encourage Pace University to hold more town hall meetings for the student population in order to create a better understanding of Islam.”
Closer to home, CAIR-MI and the MSA chapter at the University of Michigan-Dearborn have revealed a similar cooperative strategy, pressuring the University to install Muslim foot baths as a sign of special status for Muslim students. While the MSA has carefully disguised its years-long pressure on the administration to install the foot baths, when the plan finally “came to light,” CAIR-MI executive director Dawud Walid suddenly appeared as the main spokesperson for the plan, defending the University, the MSA, and even the ACLU--none of which organizations he is formally associated with. And, of course, as spokesman, he is condemning all critics of the foot-bath plan as “Islamophobic.”
We at DU never thought the foot baths in themselves were serious enough to cause a fuss, though we have always believed they were unlawful. Instead, we have always seen them as symbolic concessions, just another step in preparing a cowed administration for provide greater and greater concessions to Islam as a religion with a special status--concessions perhaps even to soon include an “anti-hate campaign” for UM-Dearborn, including a mandatory world religion class to infuse students with a greater appreciation for the world’s most misunderstood world religion -- Islam.
Sound far-fetched? Well, Ms. Ali of the PACE MSA isn’t stopping with just charging a student with a hate crime. She “would like to see Pace do more, like hiring a campus chaplain.... She also wants a world religions course to be required for all students. Both are suggestions Pace officials say they will consider.
“’We have science, computers, public speaking as requirements,’ Ms. Ali said. ‘Especially in New York, you are exposed to so many people. A world religions course would be a great way to prepare students for what they’re in store for.’”
What they’re in store for is right.
Your local campus MSA is not just an ordinary student organization, but a serious pressure group that can throw enough weight against college administrators to get their way. As envisioned by its Muslim Brotherhood founders, MSA's primary mission includes dawa, that is, the non-violent method by which nonMuslim society is prepared for jihad and, ultimately, Islamic rule:
“Preparing the society is achieved thru plans for: spreading the Islamic culture, the possible media means, mosques, and da'wa work in public organizations such as syndicates, parliaments, student unions, ... Parallel to that, distinct muslims should be trained to administer political, economical, social, and student organizations efficiently (and Islamically), as another preparation step.”
At Pace, the university’s decision to categorize the vandalism as a hate crime wasn’t arrived at because administrators had a weakness for the victim claims of Muslim students. According to the New York Times, Pace officials discussed it first with police, and between them decided it was only “an act of vandalism rather than a hate crime.” This made sense.
Then, according to a former MSA board member, Haseeb, who blogs at Hahmed.com, it was only “[a]fter much deliberation between the Muslim Students’ Association with the school’s administration, [that] the university finally agreed to define this as a hate crime and investigated the issue.”
Indeed after the second incident a few weeks later, though it was no more of a intimidating nor a hate crime than the first incident, the MSA was ready to pounce.
The New York Times quoted the MSA's spokeswoman: "This time, the MSA @ Pace was quick to action again, and the university was much more supportive in their concerns“I would say that the university has kind of done a 180 and is definitely working with us in terms of labeling it as a hate crime."
Nor did MSA act without coordinated support from CAIR.
While Ibrahim Hooper and other flacks are complaining that finding pages of the Koran in a campus toilet is an act of intimidation creating a “hostile environment” for Muslim students at Pace, Haseeb more sincerely characterizes the incidents as an “opportunity.” The MSA welcomes the incident to leverage concessions from a scared university administration.
And the MSA never wants only what they’re demanding at the moment. They’re always taking the long view, and incidents like these are handy excuses to leverage greater and greater demands for special treatment for Islam.
At Pace, once they'd gotten the university to investigate the vandalism as a hate crime, the MSA kept up the pressure. Once the university did their "180" on the calling vandalism a hate crime, they pitched in to offer "sensitivity forums," according to Faiza Ali of the Muslim Students Association.
Haseeb explains the larger success of the Pace MSA, in that, ‘”aside from the proper labeling of the crime (as a hate crime) and the ensuing investigation, the MSA is also working hard with the administration in starting an anti-hate campaign which “will include sensitivity training for students and senior administrators, a program to train people in the proper protocols for handling bias incidents, public forums to discuss the hate crimes that have taken place, and the issuing of wallet cards with phone numbers for people to call in emergencies.”
Nor do local MSA chapters ever seem to make a move without CAIR providing public relations services--consisting largely of reckless charges of “Islamophobia” against anyone who criticizes any MSA goals. From CAIR-NY's press release:
“On Tuesday, October 3, the New York chapter of the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR-NY) will participate in a town hall meeting at Pace University to discuss a recent incident in which a Quran, Islam’s revealed text, was found in the toilet in a campus men’s room. CAIR-NY is calling on the university to treat the incident as a possible hate crime….CAIR-NY sees this incident as evidence of the growing phenomenon of Islamophobia in the United States and will encourage Pace University to hold more town hall meetings for the student population in order to create a better understanding of Islam.”
Closer to home, CAIR-MI and the MSA chapter at the University of Michigan-Dearborn have revealed a similar cooperative strategy, pressuring the University to install Muslim foot baths as a sign of special status for Muslim students. While the MSA has carefully disguised its years-long pressure on the administration to install the foot baths, when the plan finally “came to light,” CAIR-MI executive director Dawud Walid suddenly appeared as the main spokesperson for the plan, defending the University, the MSA, and even the ACLU--none of which organizations he is formally associated with. And, of course, as spokesman, he is condemning all critics of the foot-bath plan as “Islamophobic.”
We at DU never thought the foot baths in themselves were serious enough to cause a fuss, though we have always believed they were unlawful. Instead, we have always seen them as symbolic concessions, just another step in preparing a cowed administration for provide greater and greater concessions to Islam as a religion with a special status--concessions perhaps even to soon include an “anti-hate campaign” for UM-Dearborn, including a mandatory world religion class to infuse students with a greater appreciation for the world’s most misunderstood world religion -- Islam.
Sound far-fetched? Well, Ms. Ali of the PACE MSA isn’t stopping with just charging a student with a hate crime. She “would like to see Pace do more, like hiring a campus chaplain.... She also wants a world religions course to be required for all students. Both are suggestions Pace officials say they will consider.
“’We have science, computers, public speaking as requirements,’ Ms. Ali said. ‘Especially in New York, you are exposed to so many people. A world religions course would be a great way to prepare students for what they’re in store for.’”
What they’re in store for is right.
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